The Policeman's Blog

Rifle? Looks like a strap on!
 

A rifled, pump action shotgun? I think not :P
 

Looks like fun. I'd have stuck a picture of Jacqui Smith on the target though.
 

Bang on!
 

The 870 is a good choice. I'm a gunsmith and it's rare I see a broken 870.
 

Bit close for a stationary target surely? :)

Also, try a Beretta semi-auto (more rounds, no need to pump it*), or a muzzle-loader ('proper' recoil**)

*unless you're using some seriously low recoil cartridges

**bruised jaw muscles anyone??? :)
 

Gary - “Shotguns? What, like guns that fire shot?”

Barry the Baptist - “Oh, you must be the brains then, yes guns that fire shots”
 

Pump shotguns have some major advantages in law enforcement:

1. Racking a round indicates seriousness, even if the officer is not visible (and the sound is multi-lingual) and tends to promote compliance to verbal commands;

2. Pinpoint accuracy (rarely possible under high stress conditions) is not necessary when buckshot is used;

3. Someone shot with 12ga buckshot tends to be stopped (which is the whole purpose of shooting someone);

4. Remington 870's have been proven to be very reliable and cost effective to many law enforcement agencies.
 

Only 4 cartridges / shells?

Does this mean that Canada has also limited the capacity of repeaters by law, as was done in the UK after Hungerford (max 3)?

It would have been interesting to see the target after the first shot. Is this weapon choked or full bore so as to make it relatively less lethal?
 

Hmmmmmmmmm.

CS...Check.

Asp...Check.

Handcuffs...Check.

No shotgun and a great feeling of inadequacy...CHECK !!!!

Peckham PC.
 

Peckham PC

In 1966 it was
whistle - check
stick-check
notebook - check
and off I went totally confident. Things have changed in Peckham and definitely not for the better.
 

I hope that's double O buckshot your shooting there!
 

I don't get a feeling of inadequacy in Moss Side without a shotgun...

Must have changed for the better ;)
 

All your questions answered . . . .

- 'Only 4 cartridges/shells'? Well, yes - that's the magazine capacity of the 'standard' 870 Wingmaster, and you can see that he's loading the magazine. If you want more - up to 8 - in the magazine, you need an aftermarket extension magazine or one of Remington's law-enforcement models, which brings us to

- I doubt sincerely that this is a law-enforcement 'issue' 870 - the barrel is too long. 'Issue' would be 18-20", this looks like 26" or 28" - too long for reasonable handling in a law-enforcment setting.

- 'Issue' 870's will almost-invariably be choked 'Improved Cylinder', because they are expected to be able to handle a wide variety of cartridges other than shot, and other chokings may be less-effective or even unsafe with those types of cartridges.

Here's Remington's current catalog page for law-enforcement shotguns:

http://www.remingtonle.com/shotguns/870synthetic.htm

Note that, on top of the 870's well-deserved reputation for reliability and function, their law-enforcemnt line includes significant upgrades - forged parts vs stamped, additional finishing and fitting, and so forth.

llater,

llamas
 

Dave, you need to maintain a proper cheek-weld, or you'll soon lose your fillings!

Mogg
 

Oh, and Dave - not to be an a** or anything, but - please don't slingshot your 870 when it really matters. The feeding mechanism is designed to work more-or-less horizontal, and it's intended to work best when the action is stationary and the slide is moved. The reloading action depends upon an inertia-operated latch, which is not foolproof.

It's very forgiving and you'll get away with it most of the time, but it can lead to a stovepiped empty jammed up with a loaded round. Same goes for pumping it with the muzzle pointed downwards - which is one reason that LE 870's have beefier magazine springs.

I'm just sayin' . . .

llater,

llamas

who has also serviced about 1.5 million 870s - or it seems that way, some days.
 

Could do with one of those in Newtown!
MC
 

I struggle with the scope on my air rifle, so giving me a shotgun without a lot of supervision might be a little unwise.

Do Canadian street cops get issued shotguns as part of the car kit?

If so, do you get to shout "Shotgun" when you're walking to the car with your partner in order to sit in the front seat?
 

"Do Canadian street cops get issued shotguns as part of the car kit?"

If so...they're well paid for their efforts at almost 40,000 Pounds salary (not including overtime)... and a probable increase at year end.

Check out their base salary HERE

Currency converter HERE
 

cant go wrong kickin it in the wild with a riffle!! awesome

jay
Cyber Monday
 

First round = good hit...see the target billow.
Second = miss
Third = glancing
Fourth = glancing

As a layman (and a non-shooty one at that) that DC missed a couple of times...
 

Ah, here we see the manifestation of Dave's love for guns. All through Wasting Police Time was a ridiculous right-wing slant that kept peddling guns as the answer to all our problems and undermined a lot of what was written. I can hardly take him seriously when he says "My copy of American Rifleman just dropped through the door".
 

"I can hardly take him seriously when he says "My copy of American Rifleman just dropped through the door"."
What's your problem? AR is the journal of the US NRA, a great read. Would that the UK NRA was something remotely as gutsy and effectual...
The 870 is OK. Me, I'll probably be happy 'til I can no longer hold a gun, with my rather old Savage-Stevens 5-round pump 12ga. Built like a tank and if it runs out of ammo, use it as a battering ram.
 

yeesh, the man goes plinking at the range and gets accused of inadequacy and of being an evil republican pro-gun mouthpiece, nice.