Tuesday, July 01, 2008
HAPPY CANADA DAY!
It really has all been worth it…
Most police officers in the UK seem to know someone who used to work on their shift a few years ago who has a brother who went to join the police in Australia/New Zealand/Canada and never looked back. Well, now that I’ve finally finished the 21 week training program and I’m starting on shift later this week, I’m happy to say that 8 months after arriving here in Canada:
1. It’s been worth it.
2. I don’t regret it.
3. I’m not going back.
Those of you who did the residential 16 week course at one of the large police training schools like Ryton or Bruche, probably got a good understanding of the law and were able to answer questions like, “If Fred removes wild rabbits from a cage owned by Brian does Fred commit theft?” Unfortunately, opportunities to put into practice a detailed knowledge of the theft act were few and far between when all you ever dealt with were addicts stealing bacon and instant coffee.
My point is that I thought the police training course I did was little more than a university module in Criminal Law with a few other lessons in police procedure thrown in for good measure.
To give you an idea of what police training is like over here, here are 10 things I’ve done over here, that I never did whist training in the UK:
1. Done chin-ups
2. Ran around a lake in the snow
3. Shot a pistol from a car
4. Been to a real courtroom
5. Shot suspects with simunition
6. Been "shocked" with a knife
7. Been shot at with simunition
8. Driven a car in reverse very quickly through cones
9. Climbed a rope
10. Put a file together for court
I've only done one shift at work, so I'm not yet in a position to make much of a comparison, but as soon as I can, I'll let you know. In the meantime, I shall be enjoying a few days off enjoying the festivities.
Below is a picture of the driving school's fleet, stretching off over the horizon of Northern Alberta.
Most police officers in the UK seem to know someone who used to work on their shift a few years ago who has a brother who went to join the police in Australia/New Zealand/Canada and never looked back. Well, now that I’ve finally finished the 21 week training program and I’m starting on shift later this week, I’m happy to say that 8 months after arriving here in Canada:
1. It’s been worth it.
2. I don’t regret it.
3. I’m not going back.
Those of you who did the residential 16 week course at one of the large police training schools like Ryton or Bruche, probably got a good understanding of the law and were able to answer questions like, “If Fred removes wild rabbits from a cage owned by Brian does Fred commit theft?” Unfortunately, opportunities to put into practice a detailed knowledge of the theft act were few and far between when all you ever dealt with were addicts stealing bacon and instant coffee.
My point is that I thought the police training course I did was little more than a university module in Criminal Law with a few other lessons in police procedure thrown in for good measure.
To give you an idea of what police training is like over here, here are 10 things I’ve done over here, that I never did whist training in the UK:
1. Done chin-ups
2. Ran around a lake in the snow
3. Shot a pistol from a car
4. Been to a real courtroom
5. Shot suspects with simunition
6. Been "shocked" with a knife
7. Been shot at with simunition
8. Driven a car in reverse very quickly through cones
9. Climbed a rope
10. Put a file together for court
I've only done one shift at work, so I'm not yet in a position to make much of a comparison, but as soon as I can, I'll let you know. In the meantime, I shall be enjoying a few days off enjoying the festivities.
Below is a picture of the driving school's fleet, stretching off over the horizon of Northern Alberta.
It's clearly not for everyone, but nevertheless has its attractions.
Comments:
I appear to be 1st. Result.
Good to hear you're enjoying it. I've got my testing for Calgary in October. Fingers Crossed.
Good to hear you're enjoying it. I've got my testing for Calgary in October. Fingers Crossed.
# posted by 
: 7:32 AM, July 01, 2008
: 7:32 AM, July 01, 2008
Let me see,
Only got to do a full case file about a year into work whilst on the CPU!
Driving, HA!!! It took me two years before they would let me do my Basic driving Course, and now, being on Southwark Borough, Driving courses are like Rocking Horse S***. Im nearly 5 years in and have been told it's going to be at least another year before a course is available.
Guns??? The only people who get to do the shootings are normally the Peckham Biys, PDC or DFA gangs. Oh, and usually at us, who are cowering behind a brick wall waiting for Trojan. Who are 20 minutes away...
Hmmmm,
Canada is beginning to sound VERY appealing.
Peckham PC
Only got to do a full case file about a year into work whilst on the CPU!
Driving, HA!!! It took me two years before they would let me do my Basic driving Course, and now, being on Southwark Borough, Driving courses are like Rocking Horse S***. Im nearly 5 years in and have been told it's going to be at least another year before a course is available.
Guns??? The only people who get to do the shootings are normally the Peckham Biys, PDC or DFA gangs. Oh, and usually at us, who are cowering behind a brick wall waiting for Trojan. Who are 20 minutes away...
Hmmmm,
Canada is beginning to sound VERY appealing.
Peckham PC
# posted by : 3:57 PM, July 01, 2008
: 3:57 PM, July 01, 2008
I saw that article as well on the daily mail and commented what a load of rubbish it was. Still waiting for it to be published.....
I to have been lucky enough to live in Canada, down in Calgary, and i can't wait for the opportunity to move back.
I to have been lucky enough to live in Canada, down in Calgary, and i can't wait for the opportunity to move back.
What's stopping you, Return of the Heroes?
Having lived in both the UK and Canada, I can say that Canada - while it has its faults - is about 1000 times better.
Good to hear from you Dave - glad it's all going well.
Having lived in both the UK and Canada, I can say that Canada - while it has its faults - is about 1000 times better.
Good to hear from you Dave - glad it's all going well.
# posted by : 5:04 PM, July 01, 2008
: 5:04 PM, July 01, 2008
Do you mean return to Canada from here or return here from Canada? Cos there are two Mail articles saying pretty much opposite things!
# posted by : 5:05 PM, July 01, 2008
: 5:05 PM, July 01, 2008
I'm sure Canada isn't perfect. Show me somewhere that is. Australia? Very nice but full of snakes and spiders. No thanks. My wife and I recently got my visa for Canada. Five years nearly but we think it's worth it. The article in the Mail has some relevant points. The winters take some getting used too for example, but seriously does anyone think Britain is going to get better?
Sorry but for me it's busted beyond repair. I read Wasting Police Time and it all made sense to me. I work in Border Control and see first hand the rubbish that we allow into Britain every day without let or hindrance. At least Canada gets to pick and choose who they let in. We are increasinly told what to do by our new leaders in Brussels or is it Strasbourg this week? Long term we, or rather the socialists, have set Britain up for some serious anarchy. I would rather live somewhere that has sensible gun ownership laws, reasonable taxes, low energy prices and generally pleasant people. Unlike the scum and riff raff that seem to be everywhere in Britain these days.
Sorry but for me it's busted beyond repair. I read Wasting Police Time and it all made sense to me. I work in Border Control and see first hand the rubbish that we allow into Britain every day without let or hindrance. At least Canada gets to pick and choose who they let in. We are increasinly told what to do by our new leaders in Brussels or is it Strasbourg this week? Long term we, or rather the socialists, have set Britain up for some serious anarchy. I would rather live somewhere that has sensible gun ownership laws, reasonable taxes, low energy prices and generally pleasant people. Unlike the scum and riff raff that seem to be everywhere in Britain these days.
# posted by : 6:01 PM, July 01, 2008
: 6:01 PM, July 01, 2008
Anon, I meant i would like to move back to Canada eventually, The Daily Mail article i was referring to went on about how Canada is a culturally backwards place and that its cold the whole time and that is health care isn't all that its cracked up to be etc etc.
I just wrote back saying its just as good as you imagine, that its truly gods country, esp when you get up to the Yukon and the like and their health care rocked.
I went from being diagnosed with a potential heart problem on a Thursday to having a an MRI 5 days laters (unfortunately confirming it) and a consultation with the senior cardiologist in Calgary. Not to shabby really.
The only downside i thought, was they still can't replicate a pub but Joey Tomatoes makes up for it!
There are just a few more places i want to live though, before i make my way back there.
I just wrote back saying its just as good as you imagine, that its truly gods country, esp when you get up to the Yukon and the like and their health care rocked.
I went from being diagnosed with a potential heart problem on a Thursday to having a an MRI 5 days laters (unfortunately confirming it) and a consultation with the senior cardiologist in Calgary. Not to shabby really.
The only downside i thought, was they still can't replicate a pub but Joey Tomatoes makes up for it!
There are just a few more places i want to live though, before i make my way back there.
Just for closure is Fred committing theft?
I suspect not but part of me needs to know!!!
I suspect not but part of me needs to know!!!
# posted by : 10:58 PM, July 01, 2008
: 10:58 PM, July 01, 2008
Fred commits theft. Although the rabbits are wild, by caging them, Brian has bought them under his control. The rabbits are therefore the property of Brian.
I think.
I think.
# posted by : 3:24 AM, July 02, 2008
: 3:24 AM, July 02, 2008
doesn't it depend whether fred entered someone else's land to catch them, and whether that person regarded them as his property and had fenced his land in appropriately
# posted by : 8:40 AM, July 02, 2008
: 8:40 AM, July 02, 2008
R o t Heroes - sorry misunderstood your original post - the second Mail article talks about how great Canada is, hence my confusion
# posted by : 8:40 AM, July 02, 2008
: 8:40 AM, July 02, 2008
Do they take 47 yr old specials in the police force in Alberta???? This country is going to the dogs. Did you hear Jacqui Smith insisting that knife crime is no worse than it has been in the past?
Err despite hospitals saying that admissions due to it have risen by 75% over the last few years.
Is there anyway back for those of us left in the UK?
Err despite hospitals saying that admissions due to it have risen by 75% over the last few years.
Is there anyway back for those of us left in the UK?
# posted by : 7:58 PM, July 02, 2008
: 7:58 PM, July 02, 2008
Do the rabbits have a say in all this? Maybe Brian or Fred (cant remember whose got them) was going to give them back a bit later when he's finished with them. It gets very complicated.
Glad it's going okay for you, and yes I am jealous. Sick to death of this sh*te hole, and they way it's going we will have some serious policing issues on our hands. Bugger.
Glad it's going okay for you, and yes I am jealous. Sick to death of this sh*te hole, and they way it's going we will have some serious policing issues on our hands. Bugger.
# posted by : 10:20 PM, July 02, 2008
: 10:20 PM, July 02, 2008
Must have been very confusing lifting the hood of the Crown Vic and discovering the equivalent of two Vauxhall Astra engines in the bay? Plus now you have to think like a tourist, think right and look left. Do Canadian police make waffles in their patrol cars?
If I was Fred I'd have got rid of the evidence by eating the rabbits. Haven't tasted a decent bunny rabbit casserole since ... well around 1945.
Nice post. Really liked it..
Don't forget to update it regularly.
I am looking for new updates dieing to read more stuff from you ..
Don't forget to update it regularly.
I am looking for new updates dieing to read more stuff from you ..
It is interesting to hear about the training sessions in the Police Academy. I'm sure it is easy to write but must have been really tough to undergo these sessions.
My book "Breaking Barriers" is based on women in police services; a comparison between India and the United States. The research work for this book gave me an opportunity to interview many sheriffs across India and the United States. I can very well understand the hard work and sacrifices required to become a cop and in the everyday professional life.
Great job!!!
My book "Breaking Barriers" is based on women in police services; a comparison between India and the United States. The research work for this book gave me an opportunity to interview many sheriffs across India and the United States. I can very well understand the hard work and sacrifices required to become a cop and in the everyday professional life.
Great job!!!
Off on a tangent I know but want to vent some steam. I've just had misconduct papers served on me for the dreadfull crime of leaving a battery in my airwave set over night. Apparently this justifies a written warning. I'd be interested to know from other bloggers how their careers have been blighted by over zealous SMT authority!! That feels better, Calgary here I come!
# posted by : 10:56 PM, July 06, 2008
: 10:56 PM, July 06, 2008
Anon 1056 - Looks like I'm for the high jump then... haven't taken the battery off my Airwave terminal since last year. We have to leave them fitted to the unit for them to charge on their own cradles, and only put the spares on a communal charger. Someone in your building must be (1) newly promoted and desperate to be a New Broom (2) waiting to be promoted and showing their value to management, or (3) a cock. My money's on 3.
Back on topic - have friends and family out there, who assure me it's fantastic. But why do they keep coming here to visit?
Back on topic - have friends and family out there, who assure me it's fantastic. But why do they keep coming here to visit?
Glad to hear we pass your smell-test, Copperfield and hope you stay awhile. Do keep us updated as time goes by.
Since Calgary Police have temporarily suspended international recruitment, I believe the Edmonton Police is the only service in Canada that is still actively recruiting experienced British cops through the PNP. Correct me if I'm wrong but there's really no age limit provided you pass the physical, so to the 47 yr. old above, you should be good to go.
Just checking with the O.P.P. (Ontario Provincial Police) website where the age limit is minimum 18 yrs. to 65 yrs. old maximum! You can still apply, but there's no assistance with immigration procedures in Ontario police jobs. Only in Edmonton, Alberta, pity!
Since Calgary Police have temporarily suspended international recruitment, I believe the Edmonton Police is the only service in Canada that is still actively recruiting experienced British cops through the PNP. Correct me if I'm wrong but there's really no age limit provided you pass the physical, so to the 47 yr. old above, you should be good to go.
Just checking with the O.P.P. (Ontario Provincial Police) website where the age limit is minimum 18 yrs. to 65 yrs. old maximum! You can still apply, but there's no assistance with immigration procedures in Ontario police jobs. Only in Edmonton, Alberta, pity!
# posted by : 7:57 PM, July 08, 2008
: 7:57 PM, July 08, 2008
We hope to be in Alberta by November (long haul trucking into and back from USA).
My wife got attacked in her place of work, a town centre shop (Bradford) last week.
Even though the panic button had been pressed and a colleague phone d the cops as well ...it took 15 mins for them to arrive.
If she had doubts, they soon evaporated.
My wife got attacked in her place of work, a town centre shop (Bradford) last week.
Even though the panic button had been pressed and a colleague phone d the cops as well ...it took 15 mins for them to arrive.
If she had doubts, they soon evaporated.
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: 10:21 PM, July 09, 2008
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