Saturday, March 01, 2008

Sir Norman Bettison is NOT a greedy, vain moron. 

He would like to make this known.
Sir Norman, left, the Chief Constable of West Yorkshire, is fuming after cyber-vandals messed about with his page on Wikipedia.
For those of you who have never heard of Wikipedia, it's an online encyclopaedia where entries are open for editing by pretty much anyone.
What happens is, you put up an entry about someone or something and others then add to it as they see fit. The idea is that mature adults work together to create democratic definitions for everything. Of course, it often descends into juvenile name-calling and tit-for-tat squabbling of the sort which was once seen only in playgrounds. Still, it can be funny.
Apparently, sinister forces took issue with the content of Sir Norman's Wikipedia page and started changing it to fit their less-than hagiographic view of the chief and his glorious achievements.
Among the suggestions added to his page was that - far from being the leading policeman of this gilded generation - he was actually a greedy, vain moron. The chief has apparently had HQ minions logging on to Wikipedia with some regularity to delete mean comments such as this. According to Police Review and the papers, his page has changed over 100 times in recent months.
I'm sure it's wholly unfair to characterise the chief as 'greedy' (though he did try to have his cake and eat it recently), 'vain' or 'moronic'. On this latter point, after all, (and as his Wikipedia page used to tell us - it's now locked for a fortnight), he read philosophy and psychology at Oxford (what, no sociology?).
But still, the council tax payers of West Yorkshire may be wondering whether there might not be more serious issues - like missing kids, armed robberies and murders, for instance - for their senior police officers to concern themselves with.
The hard-pressed cops he leads may be thinking the same thing.

TCT

Update: Lady Norma's page has now been opened again, and there's still no sign of Shannon Matthews.

# "Wasting Police Time" by David Copperfield is available from Amazon and all good bookshops.: 12:13 PM
Comments:
Nope. Senior Police (along with the Government) are permanently locked into the mentality that if we can control all the media coverage and tell people everything is great, then ... it will be.
 
"The council tax payers of West Yorkshire may be wondering whether there might not be more serious issues - like missing kids, armed robberies and murders, for instance - for their senior police officers to concern themselves with."

- spot on
 
This man is definately a cha wala I am afraid.
 
In the course of my employment as a Neighbourhood/Area Officer I have had abuse shouted at me, been assualted received crimestoppers intelligence that I am to receive a leathering of the scallies who I have "dissed".
I have had my name and derogatory comments sprayed on the walls of the council estate!
I am probably no different to many other street cops up and down the country.
Fortunately we can get on with the job and treat this as "par for the course". I wish I was on Wikipedia as I could quite easily not be bothered with anything put on there too!
I have obviously upset people - and I am not bothered as they are quite recognisably the people I should be upsetting..
Mr Bettison - treat any abuse as a sign you are doing your job! and do your job rather than worrying about what people think or write!
 
The only police that would be upset with reporting, are those police who are up to something.
Mr B has displayed his ability to perform like a clown. He ORDERS his people (our servants) to surf the internet and try to dispel bad items about him.
He has forgotten that the hard working British public are paying for those servants, not him!
He IS a moron.
 
This obsession with how things 'look', combined with Head-in-the-sand leadership, isn't limited to the Police, it's the same in schools too; and just as you never see Head Teachers in classrooms attempting to teach 'challenging' students, I'm guessing you rarely see the Police Top Brass on the High Street on a Friday night at chucky out time.

That's 'cos they're too busy ticking boxes and putting out bulletins that tell us how good everthing is.

The Emperor is naked and it's about time we greeted this fact with the laughter and scorn it deserves.
 
I would hazard a guess that a lot of the 'malicious entries' are from his own staff. He has treated them with utter contempt over his intention to change the rota. He comes across as a dictatorial bully and the sooner he goes the better I have heard said.
 
And he looks remarkably like Tom Sellick (Magnum PI) so some other insult might be levelled against him
Some report we could end up with him here in the Met, and I had a fiver that said they could pick no one worse than Blair
Looks like I've lost that then
 
Please tell me tjhat the moustache is for a bet?!!
 
Does Tom Sellick dye his hair and spend a lot of time topping up his tan? I guess so.

Only a moron would so spectacularly draw this sort of attention to his vanity and greed.

We definitely don't want him in London. He couldn't even keep the job as Chief Exec of Centrex - a plum retirement post.
 
Soundbites, 'gloss', spin, newspeak, 'style over substance', tokenism, just some of the watchwords of the nu-labour Govt and this style of management permeates through to the Police and all the other public services. And in the best traditions of Nu labour brand of totalitarianism, no criticism or dissent is tolerated.
 
Anonymous 2:29:

''Mr Bettison - treat any abuse as a sign you are doing your job! and do your job rather than worrying about what people think or write!''

Your joking right? Or is it that his job being a greedy,vain moron? If so then yes, you are right, he should ignore the critisism because he is doing his job well, very very well indeed! That 'tache though, very 70's porn star look!
 
He has ransacked his own dignity in a way no wikipedia page ever could have, and now looks like a total plonker.

This the same guy who when he was appointed chief constable compared terrorism to being like 'waiting for Jaws 2'. Isn't he just a harmless pratt with a touch too much time on his hands?

Why is anyone taking him seriously, let alone thinking of him, for the Met Commissioner's job?
 
"seventies reject"
I don't know Mr Bettison - he may indeed be as described.
It just annoys me when command bleat about things the rest of us suffer and put up with on a daily basis.
One really has to question his psychological ability to hold down a Chiefs job if he cannot put up with a bit of criticism on Wikipedia!
If we street cops took half the umbrage about what was daubed or said about us the Police would grind to a halt.
Sir Norm - get over it !
 
Being the 'medal anorak' that I am I could not help but notice that although in the picture he is sporting a ribbon for his Police Long Service & Good Conduct Medal there is no Queen's Golden Jubilee Medal. He is also sporting an Iraq War Medal ribbon - which again seems a little odd and is not helped by the fact he has it on upside down! - obviousy detail and uniformity are another two of his weaker points.
 
I see the new Blackadder series is based on the police. Only the uniform has changed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/content/images/2007/05/09/blackadder4c_396x222.jpg
 
Oops. try
http://preview.tinyurl.com/373aa6
 
Surely someone accessing the internet on a Police computer to check a personal profile win Wikipedia amounts to "using the internet for personal use" which is a disciplinary offence.

If Sir Norman is that concerned about what is being posted about him shouldn't he be amending it at home in his own time?
 
On leaving Merseyside Police did he get a payoff & a pension? I missed his return to West Yorkshire Police, what reason did they give for hiring him
 
He had a Chief's pension from Merseyside when he retired in 2004 to take up a lucrative job hanging around Centrex. He had to leave Centrex when he failed to get the job of Chief Exec of NPIA, and went to work for ACPO and got a knighthood as his 'I'll go quietly' payoff that senior people seem to get. He worked for ACPO on the same Centrex salary (£185k according to their Annual Report) plus a civil service Chief Exec's pension for his Centrex work and the Merseyside Chief's pension.

He then was hired by West Yorks (a horrible decision for the force, but that's another story) and wanted to keep his new W Yorks salary of £160k, his civil service pension from his time at Centrex, and his Chief's pension.

He used the taxpayers money to threaten to sue the Home Office and Merseyside over the pension issue, but dropped it when the Times covered it before Christmas.

How did he get back on the job as a Chief Constable? Can you return to the police 4 years after you retire and pick up the office and rank again? The whole thing sounds dodgy.
 
Im sorry - but whoever described him as a "greedy vain moron" clearly has him spot on.

They should perhaps have added "insensitive and self-obsessed" - but no doubt if they did Norman has edited off his page from the comfort of the Chief Constable's office.

Total muppet. While we are out there putting ourselves at risk, this is his contribution to policing. Shouldn't professional standards be involved?
 
When he left Merseyside the flags came out and the bunting went up. Word has it they had a huge parade celebrating his going (and then promptly changed all the 'improvements' he made back to how they were before).
 
nice tosh !!!
 
Are we totally sure that that isnt Tom Selleck in the photo???
 
Ohhh he looks delish! Saw him last year at the gay pride march, if the camera had took a full shot of him you would see he was wearing a lovely set of sussie's and shocking pink high heels!
 
Total and complete tw*t.

The other chief constables must've spent the weekend laughing their heads off at Norman. Shame 'Have I Got News For You' wasn't on this week - it'd be a cert.

I can't wait to see him slink into HQ on Monday knowing he's been exposed in the worst way possible - and all of it true: everything is always about Norman.
 
Surely if an ordinary Bobby was accused of wasting his time on the force internet changing something online to make himself look better he'd get in serious trouble?

As for getting colleagues to waste their time on it - and having looked at his wikipedia page you are talking hours and hours everyday - unforgivable.

If he survives this scandal he'll be known as the new Richard Brunstrom.
 
He's like a ridiculous cross between Magnum PI, Blackadder, and Basil Fawlty.
 
'Norman bites yer legs!!!'
 
Mr. Ken said;
"The Emperor is naked and it's about time we greeted this fact with the laughter and scorn it deserves."

However, I think he looks more like Boycey from Only Fools and Horses.
 
Watch the 'nice' comments flooding in from 9am Monday. Sorry, make that 10.30 after the 'emergency meeting'!
 
"Watch the 'nice' comments flooding in from 9am Monday. Sorry, make that 10.30 after the 'emergency meeting'!"

You mean he's not paying them overtime for their sycophancy?
 
Yes - it'll be fun to see how many of Norman's army of image advisers start leaving positive comments everywhere from tomorrow - I haven't seen a single positive comment defending his vanity, greed, or the misuse of taxpayer's money on a single blog or the Comments section of all the newspapers that covered it.

No wonder - it is indefensible. Greedy vain moron!
 
I just checked out the wikipedia page - hilarious! Imagine thinking he wouldn't look stupid when his head of comms published this on the page:

"Sir Norman prepared the current version which attempts to respond to the negative issues raised in the previous unauthorised entry, ie Sir Norman's appointment to Merseyside, the Force amalgamation programme and the recent vote by West Yorkshire Police staff on the shift system."

How arrogant. So, we're only allowed 'Sir' Norman's view on his controversies? It's like something from East Germany, not West Yorkshire. He sounds like a sad old bugger who's losing his looks and confidence and just wants a shot at the top job.

And what chief constable has the time to sit about rewriting his wikipedia page? What else is he doing - writing letters about himself to the local papers about how wonderful he is? Wasting time posing for photos (do an image search - they're all posed)?
 
Twining is right - he's a total Cha Wala.

As well as being a greedy vain moron.
 
I think you mean he's a Twunt.
 
Why is anyone surprised that Norman is using police time to edit his wikipedia page? In 1998 in the House of Commons Maria Eagle MP accused him of being part of a "black propaganda campaign which aimed to deflect the blame for what had happened on to any one other than themselves." It is a pretty serious situation if you get named in Parliament as a cop, and accused of skulduggery.

Old habits die hard clearly.
 
it would've been marginally less shameful for Sir Norm if he'd just dropped his trousers in Betty's teashop in Harrogate.
 
Give me strength!

Was this bloke told to pose like that or was it his over inflated ego that thought it made him look good?

I'm afraid we've reached a time in history when Chief Officers care little more about the forces they manage than the people they serve.

What about a management BUY OUT!!!!

Proper Coppers doing what they joined to do!
 
There's some interesting commentary here about Norman's treatment of the boys and girls in Merseyside:

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=1821955
 
Are there any chief constables in this country who are liked and/or admired by the rank and file, mines an arse as well.
 
I personally think the whole promotional process needs an overhall.
... and the first rule is to ban the masons.
 
ACR Blues reports that Sir Norm is forcing you to change your rota.

Please elaborate.....from what to what?
 
If he goes to the Met he must first be made aware of the old school motto drilled into me and many others at Hendon i.e. "Idle and Silly Remarks Will Be Disregarded as Unworthy of Notice"
 
Dear God please say "Normsie" is not going to the Met. I foresee a problem if he does. Normsie, who is now better known as cha wala has some followers of his own; he has other damn cha walas doing work for him.

"Normsie" is the type of Liberal "leader" that maintains rule through bullying and dictatorship.

Anon at 1029 I am so glad someone agrees with me that this so called self made "leader" is actually nothing other than a cha wala; worse still he used to sport a damn moustache!
 
Sorry I meant thank you to a fellow Sergeant at 1029. You can see my interview of "Normsie" on my blog.
 
A great disappointment in a lifelong quest to improve the vanguards of public services, namely policing and justice in Yorkshire, was their corruption by freemasonry. Neither could ever serve the interests of the public whilst serving the interests of a secret society. We must all work together to remove this immoral parasite.
 
As a non police officer but resident of West Yorkshire I wonder how the Chief Constable can instruct anybody to waste time on checking his own personal entry on Wikipedia.

It's good to know that tax-payer funded equipment is put to such good use.

I sincerely hope the 'rank and file' officers of any force don't take offence at my comments (I am not anti-Police, I am just anti-greedy vain morons)
 
Cha Wala he is, Sgt Twining. Of the highest order.

Shouldn't the Police Authority investigate this waste of money and police officer and staff time? No wonder my bloody council tax costs so much - it is feeding Norman Bettison's vanity (and that costs a fortune).
 
what a clown.

this should seriously damage any chances he had of becoming Commissioner of the Met - and trust me, as a Merseyside Inspector I can tell my friends in the Met you are having a lucky escape. He's hopeless - and thinks of nothing but himself, his image, and his salary and expenses.
 
why don't you coppers start your own profile of him? A good site that won't pander is uncyclopedia.
It is also 100% factually accurate, as this link shows! http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail

Seriously, I think (and hope) that the matter of misuse of resources is pushed...
 
Sorry, my last bit doesn't make much sense. What I meant was I hope his misuse of police resources is investigated fully, this would at least save a bit of face for the police as a whole.
 
I agree Hibbo. It should be investigated. Surely this is worse than those plonkers from Gwent who drove to the seaside on shift?

This is a senior person wilfully misuing police resources for his own image boosting in the hope he gets the Met job.

Totally wrong. Someone should complain to the IPCC and the Police Authority.
 
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I would like details of the staff resources spent attempting to turn a factual wikipedia entry into a hagiography of the Chief constable so that I can add that information to my blog entry concerning this crass stupidity.

No doubt he’ll send his armed officers out to taser me now (he uses his armed police to taser local mental cases rather than have someone talk to them)
 
I added this to his wikipedia page, but one of his minions has deleted it already. His common touch and outgoing personality ensured he was popular with colleagues and subordinates alike, indeed his rendition of 'I want to break free' by the British rock group Queen at the 2001 Merseyside Police all-ranks Charity Talent Contest is still spoken about to this day.




You can view the version containing it here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Norman_Bettison&oldid=195903917 although I'm not suggesting anyone make it current again...
 
I'm not sure if clicking this will return our hero's singing status (not the best with computers!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Norman_Bettison&action=edit&undoafter=195828158&undo=195828456
 
Honestly - what a ridiculous man - he'll only be a figure of fun from now on. He's always been hated by the rank and file for his greed and vanity, and the only thing he had left - his puffed up, self-important airbrushed biography has been derided all over the papers. Moron.
 
bloody hlarious - he has totally shamed himself to his force, fellow chiefs and the public! What an idiot!
 
Hilarious this might be; vain he might be, but I wouldn't use the word moron, that's a bit much, but the cha walas from his Force are monitoring us all. Shame on us all for we are the underclass to him and his fellows.
 
This is a great example of ego defeating common sense. I bet he regrets his petty actions now. All the controversy and shameful behaviour he wanted to conceal is all over the internet now. If you google his name the "greedy vain moron" story comes up near the top. Sad, sad, man.
 
This man has extremely poor judgement, and clearly puts himself above the job.
 
Nice one Hibbo, he does have a touch of the Freddie Mercurys about him. And: Oh Yes, he's the great pretender!
 
"But still, the council tax payers of West Yorkshire may be wondering whether there might not be more serious issues - like missing kids, armed robberies and murders, for instance - for their senior police officers to concern themselves with.
The hard-pressed cops he leads may be thinking the same thing."

I am in both the above categories, and I could not agree more.
 
I used to work with Bettison when he ran Centrex. He's a horrible man, a nasty bully, who thinks of nobody else. His greed and love of the high life were legendary - if you want to see how he inflated his salary check out the Centrex annual reports. Total greed.
 
What a loser.
 
He needs his head examined (and not just because of the horrible moustache or because he can't wear his cap properly).

What sort of copper uses taxpayer's money to try and sue another force and the Home Office (causing them both to waste yet more taxpayer's money) to pay him a full pension and a full salary at the same time? Not even that crooked bunch we call "MPs" can do that!

And his insensitivity at trying this con when the rest of us in the service are still smarting about not even getting the pay increase we deserve is amazing.

I'll bet the costs of his legal action would have allowed every West Yorks officer their pay increase.

Sorry, but this guy is a greedy vain moron.
 
he needs to get a life, the greedy vain timewaster.
 
If he was a PC he would have been sacked for neglect of duty and checked out for mental illness.
 
total and utter plonker to add to the list.
 
I have had a reply to my foi request - not very helpful though!

http://www.bradfordvision.co.uk/node/13172
 
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