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Bloody land sharks. Nobody is safe except for their dad.
 

Brilliant.

I had a Rhodesian Ridgeback / German Shepherd cross as a guard dog when living on the Zambian Copperbelt. No mamby-pamby ball for him. He used to fetch a house brick.

I was fined 1 Kwacha per tooth-mark after Tiger went for an intruder - total 14 Kwacha - about 7 quid.

Fantastic value for money - the word was out and I never had another break-in.
 

Every constabulary should have a dozen dogs like those,then watch the scumbags run!!
 

Poor dog must be worried sick at the thought of what dreadful infections it might have contracted from that scumbag.
I trust it is receiving the best vetinary care and appropriate counselling.
Alfie.
 

"He used to fetch a house brick."

A house brick? That's nothing - a German shepherd I used to have used to fetch huge lumps of rock, which I had difficulty even picking up.

Still, I sadly never had the chance to see how a robber would have fared when faced with my dog...
 

Yes, but if those were real French crims they would have just shot the bloody dogs. Obviously the French tactical genius has declined since Napoleon's time.
 

Great vid, I am aiming for the dog section one day.

We had a dog when i was a lad it was a cross between an old english and a shepard. 12 stone and used to pull railway sleepers about. I also used to ride it round the garden. Great dog. Used to jump through windows and sit on the front lawn.
 

The police dog is now an endangered species now ACPO have realised that Civil Litigation are paying out willy nilly to every scratter who turns up with a hole in his shellsuit.

And to the well paid civilian head of HR in my force who recently threatened me via CC's orders about masquerading as a police officer on 'certain blogs'. This post is not racist, sexist, homaphobic, or otherwise exclusionary or that good old catch all phrase "in anyway innappropriate" It may bring the police service into disrepute at a stretch but the job brings itself into disrepute anyway. I'm in my own time on my own computer and exercising a little freedom of speech. And I hope your next bowel movement is a hedgehog.

A.Harvey
 

Shame he didn't bite him in the head.
 

North Wales Police are trialling muzzles for their dogs...

I jest you not...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410542&in_page_id=1770

Though Brunstrum probably doesn't mind if they bite a speeder.

What next - quik-cuffs with furry lining, rubber batons,
 

I've just had to write a medical report on a chav who selflessly inserted his body into a police dogs mouth a month ago. His opening gambit to me was 'I got bitten two days ago by a police dog and want to make a complaint, so I need to be examined'. I too have a complaint, the dog only sucked him, why don't they get trained to inflict a proper mauling. He couldn't explain why a police dog attacked him at 0200 in a quiet market town, perish the thought that he was up to mischief.
I refrained from asking whether the dog survived, I hope it had access to some mouthwash.
 

Good on S. Yorks for using Rotties. I had one when I was a lad and he was fantastic. The very look of them is enough to scare scrotes.
 

A guy I used to work with had a Rot that he took out a couple of times on night shifts, he wasn't a dog handler, just got sick of the thing eating his house when he was asleep during the day. As soon as he jumped out of he van with the dog (muzzled of course just in case) everyone started thinning out, never could understand why!!!
Land sharks/fury exocets are great, nothing like hearing the dull thud as they sprint past you followed by a screaming whimper a couple of seconds later.

And just for any liberals reading - at not point has anyone ever tried to explain to a police dog that they work for the police, they do things properly - jungle rules!!
 

This article in The Sheffield Star has certainly prompted some debate on the Sheffield Forum website.

I think Police Officers will be particularly interested in the views of the people of Sheffield, considering most on the Forum want to give that canine a bone or treat!

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=240940
 

Weren't Wales going to teach their Police dogs to head butt criminals instead of biting them?

Have any of you accidentally had a Glasgow kiss off a large German Shepherd Dog? It bloody hurts and you see stars!

Even so, I still think Police dogs are amazing Officers and do a fantastic job. It's just a shame they have to run the risk of catching something nasty when they bite people evading arrest.

People here in Sheffield are hoping that Rotty's up to date with their injections!
 

This will be interesting one to keep an eye on I think.

If this man wins any compensation at all I will be extremely disappointed as he clearly brought it on himself.... tsk tsk

Having read the comments under the online article I would urge the said news organ to forward all the comments to both the local Chief Constable, ACPO lead on the use of Police dogs and the present Home Secretary ..... Just so they can be left in no doubt what the public feeling is ... after all this is a democracy.

I dare say though he will be awarded a liftime excuse for not working again ... not that any form of employment has been linked to the gentleman in the article in the first place.

His partner should also be prosecuted for aiding and abetting a fugitive as she must surely have known he was a wanted man ... but no she was probably happy for him to drive her and any offspring about in an what was probably an uninsured car whilst the gentleman in question was inebriated.

Perhaps we should consider removing the children as well if there are any as they are clearly being abused, neglected and exposed to danger....

"Jurgen's mates a Mountie"
 

Good old furry exocet.
Worth their weight in gold I'd say.
Shame we didn't have more of em, they soon put a stop to any bother (scrote playing up).
If only we all got issued one each....
 

I like the two dog scenario. While the slag's watching the front, the first dog to launch at him comes from behind. Nice dummy.
 

clearly the lunatics are now running the asylum
 

Good boy, well done!

BTW, I just love the term 'furry exocet', never heard that before.
 

The only worrying thing is that - allegedly - the handler couldn't control the dog...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2369551.stm
 

The guy was wanted on a warrant. he ran. They released the dog. He was caught. End of.

He's a lowlife trying it on. His wife should be prosecuted for hiding him.

And to A. Harvey I'm sure I speak for a lot of us here when I say that your HR sounds like a total ****. And how would they know that you add comments to blogs? Thought crime anyone?
 

Hope the Police Dog files a countersuit for the resultant food poisoning.

Regards

Bill
 

"You play with fire you get burnt".
"Live by the sword, die by it".

Just 2 sayings that this twit should adhere too before getting what he can from the public coffers.

Oh well i've no doubt the spineless powers that be will conduct a lengthy and costly investigation and then will pay him out of court.

I give up. AGAIN!!

PC Common Sense
 

By that dog a HUGE Bonio... he deserves it and it might take away the nasty taste.
Drink driving and a domestic, clearly a prince amongst men.
Typical Chavs, all so not theri fault, so lets get some com-pen-say-tion. Grrrr.
 

sorry to hijack DC - FACEBOOK, if you have anything on there that is remotely job related then delete it NOW. NSY are on a headhunt after the dailymail got into the site and followed the groups to post pics and vids. The shit has well and truly hit the fan, and as usual we have no way of venting and sharing experiences other than anonymously through blogs. great.
 

Who's a good little furry beast then.

Hope your arm drops off scrote boy. Bet you don't run next time!
 

Surely a French Tactical Dog Unit promo video.

Funniest clip was the dog who was having so much fun out of chewing the arm of the 'stooge' he carried on with his handler.

'Le chien' had words of advice later I think
 

Yet another miscreant has an unfortunate date with some rather impressive canine dentistry. I just know that smarted, a bit.

He'll wear the marks like a scar of battle when they heal, but might just listen next time he hears someone shouting at him to standstill.
 

Are attack dogs and multiple vengful police the normal response to such a crime?
Or were you having a bit of fun?
 

A Police Dog Handler will be able to put me right on this, but I was under the impression that when someone was evading arrest and had gone to ground out of sight of the Officer, he would shout warnings such as; "Come out or I release the dog!", several times, and if the person hiding was shouting but was not giving themselves up to a Police Officer, the dog would be released.

In that instance the dog was surely trained to sieze the person and hold them til the Officer reached them and instructed the dog to release, even if the person was laying under conifer trees and not moving?

Someone correct me if this poor MOP has got it wrong.

By the way, many Sheffielders have added comments at the bottom of the article on The Star website, and none have come up in favour of the injured party.....John Green, I mean, not the Police Puppy! I think many are enfuriated that Mr Green is calling for the Police Dog to be destroyed as dangerous animal.
 

Furry exocet! Heard that one before somewhere.

Luvvit!


CramerJ @ 5:17am
Unfortunately we're not privy to all the details of the incident or the reason why a Police Dog and many Police Officers were present when actioning the outstanding warrant against John Green, and we probably never will be, unless we sit in the public gallery when it comes to court.
 

Sorry, chaps, but this glee is wrong. My father was a career Army man and fought with the Desert Rats and up through Italy, but he would never have rejoiced in someone else's pain.

I certainly hold no brief for criminals and for a while after being burgled the second time would have voted for hanging for burglary (since it's premeditated, with no provocation or loss of emotional control).

Is your grim joy in these individual cases a reflection of your sense that we're losing the battle generally? Don't let them take your humanity as well.
 

Is it losing your humanity to suggest that a career criminals misery is a good thing?? Because he of course gives a shit about everyone else, you know, the ones who pay their taxes that he then takes up as benefits for doing sod all with his life.

Forgive me Sackerson, but that bloke deserves no sympathy what so ever. Firstly he was convicted of drink driving, which in my book is only a couple of pegs down the abhorrent ladder from rapist, murderer and burglar having seen the consequences far too many times. Secondly several officers were deployed to a domestic - standard procedure because domestics can be some of the most dangerous incidents you attend, as EVERYONE can turn on you, even the victim, which is why it is safer to try and outnumber the occupants. Thirdly he was wanted on warrant for breaching his probation, two more personal choices he made (not complying and not handing himself in) and lastly he ran and tried to hide. That's when they would have called for the dog (if the unit hadn't turned up already) because someone hiding is an unknown quantity - what weapons do they have? are they going to fight you to escape etc.

He made his life choices and if the consequence of that is he risks getting bitten by a police dog and mauled then absolutely tough shit.
 

Points taken, Metcountymounty. I'm not quite so bothered about what it's doing to him as what it's doing to you chaps. You don't deserve to become perma-angry and callous.
 

I feel not an ounce of glee at the pain which would have been felt by the fugitive.

However:

I feel not an ounce of sympathy for the pain which would have been felt by the fugitive.
 

Do you have a list of good police novels? I still remember Joseph Wanbaugh's "The Choirboys"?
 

(Typo: it's Wambaugh, not Wanbaugh)
 

The most annoying thing is that the civil claims dept will probably pay out on that straight away.

He should be told to sling his hook, the cheeky git
(had to work hard not to swear)
 

There are certain negative aspects to our job that we all accept but I don't think we're perma-angry and callous, when some one is deserving of our attention and sympathy then I think every police officer on here will do their best and genuinely want to help them.

The flip side of that of course is that we deal with so many people who don't give a toss that most of us (me included) feel nothing what so ever if one of them are injured or killed. Personally if I hear that a local scroat has had their head stoved in or they've OD'd on something, then that's simply Karma coming back to bite them.

That said I have my doubts about Karma but that is another discussion.
 

On the local forum, the majority of the support has definitely been for the dog.

The general groundswell from the MOPs has been that the crimscum should not have been evading arrest, and then the dog would not have injured him.

The support for the crimscum has been thankfully very thin on the ground.

Why do crimscum go whining about injustice this and injustice that, when they get caught?

They should put up and shut up, take the conseqences of their actions.

Do the crime? do the time! What more is there to say?
 

just read the article and the comments by readers, all I can say is -

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
 

I'm afraid that the powers that be will muzzle or remove general purpose dogs in the future because our leaders are useless, spineless, politically correct yes men (I mean yes people)!!
Most policy decisions are taken without consultating front line pc's. They are eroding our confidence, our equipment, our ability to make our own decisions and our effectiveness.
Of course the dogs will be muzzled.... because it benefits the top brass in their hq offices who never step a foot onto the streets. The scrotes are gaining control of the inner cities because the police are being neutralised. Traffic cars that do max speed of 115mph, pursuit policy that we will not pursue, litigation against officers who injur offenders.
These leaders don't stand by front line officers, they stand behind us with their knives razor sharp.
I'd rather get a kicking from a shite that a leader cause at least expected it when you joined up.
Decent people out there still think the police is like 'Heartbeat.'
If they reslly knew what was going on, then the fear of crime would quadrouple!
I saloute all front line officers!!!!
 

Poor dog! I bet that guy tasted horrible too. I hope he doesn't get any nasty diseases. (The dog, that is!)
 

Quality!
 

Is say get more Fluffies into service as General Purpose dogs, then the neds will think twice when they have to face Maligators haha
 

Awww, he just wants to play.
 

Yet another example of where SCUM try to undermine the hard work we do by complaining to the powers that be, who are so scared of their own shadow they pay out and discipline their front line officers for doing their job.........and they wonder why moral is at an all time low.
 

Could a PCSO inflict bites like that, or are they untrainable?
 

I hope the Dog's OK.

Maybe next time this individual will do what the Court tells him to.

Why do we still entertain the trivial whinging of this Convicted Criminal and those like him??

Perhaps his fresh interest in the Law will assist him in his understanding of the Road Traffic Act? or The Criminal Law Act etc!
 

To A.Harveys HR manager you obviously read these forums so i have a little request and i think i will speak on behalf of all real Police officers (I will give you a clue these are not the ones that come to any of the "meetings" you hold), please if you have an ounce of decency in your heart resign tommorow morning.Its nothing personnel (get it?)but we could do without you and yours.
Thanks awfully.
Jingo.
 

It's a real shame the dog couldn't have gone for the throat and finished off the bugger. It could have continued and done the entire family in. That would have had people rummaging through their trays for jobs to write off, and raised the average IQ of the area by a few points.
 

the video provides yet another reason why I should learn French.

Added to:

The CRS and the Gendarm Mobile can show the TSG a thing or two and don't seem to worry about getting taken off operational duties.

Their style of hostage negotiation consists of "If you don't come out now thenwe will come in and shoot you" (in French obviously).

There was a case about three years back in which a DI equivilent shot a suspect in the head during interview. This was an accident and he was disaplined not for opresive conduct but for failing to ensure his weapon safety was on!

And most importanly, they still have wooley pulleys for patrol and rather fetching dress uniforms.

Vive la France I say.
 

The photo of the man's injury is sickening. A similar injury was probably received by a deaf women who was attacked in her own bed, whilst asleap, by a police dog. Someone had made a hoax call saying there was a gunman at her address - somewhere down south. She did not hear all the loudspeaker attempts at "negotiation", because she was sound asleap, and deaf! Police eventually smashed the door in and the dog attacked and bit her arm, which DID wake her up. Poor woman.

Over on the "Horse and Carriage blog, some guy has been making a big issue about female violence, and getting nasty about it.
Letting dogs bite people IS violence of the vicious kind, because it's done "with authority".

Richard Brunstrom has the right idea in getting North Wales dogs trained to headbutt suspects/crims. Because police cannot expect society to be non violent and then themselves behave like the biggest bullies in town. A biting dog is just a weapon of violence.
 

Anon 11:33pm, you seem to be inhabiting a place that's a combination of Utopian Fantasy Land and Planet Bizarre. Have you been talking to the kids down at the local Student's Union by any chance?

ALL weapons are "weapons of violence" as you put it; if it's not capable of being used for violence then it's not a weapon! What's important is who is using it and why.

Likewise the Police being the "biggest bullies in town" comment. Well, if it's not them, who would you rather was the muscle in your neighbourhood? An organised crime mob? Would that help you sleep better at night?

I'm also fairly confident that the police don't "expect society to be non violent". I imagine they expect society to resort to violence at any given opportunity, at least the section of society that they deal with on a regular basis!

RKC
 

Last week an article in The Daily Telegraph informed us that our Police Force is 500 under strength and that the number of PCSOs has doubled. Hasn't anyone considered training up 500 PCSOs to make up the shortfall of fully qualified Officers? The present situation confirms the suspicion that the Government wants "Policing on the cheap!"
 

anon 1133...I've not heard of the deaf woman story before... but examining the circs you report- if they are the facts of it- maybe there was little other option. It doesn't happen every day. Look at the nature of the (albeit malicious) call etc. If the good guys turned up and went off again because they got no reply, that would be a negelct of duty. Hindisght is great!!
 

No, no, anon 1133 has a point and I totally agree. It's like the story from Scotland. Or was it Scotney ? Anyway, there was this woman that was walking her kids to school. Or was it the vet, anyway, it doesn't matter. Along came this Fire engine and ran her over. Stone dead she was. Probably. So who do these Firemen think they are then, pretending to save people when all the time they are killing innocent grandmothers. I say ban all fire engines. They are just too dangerous I tell you.
And don't get me started on electricity......
 

You have to have a heart of stone not to burst into uncontrollable, spontaneous applause during that video.

As for the scrote in the story itself: in the old days, running away used to be considered an admission of guilt, and could be punished by summary execution (the reason we refer to them as the "good old days"). In America, we used to shoot fleeing suspects in the back (a practice now shamefully outlawed).

He should consider himself lucky.
 

RKC @ 6.55am. I am definately living on planet bizarre. A wonderful place, blue skies, easy on the eye vista, but amongst some VERY strange people with schizoid rules and standards. One rule for the "rulers" and different rules for the rest.

I feel that the guy's "crime" did not warrant being bitten by a dog. The man was not a danger to police, or others. Sometimes I feel that cops can take a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
Just an observation.

I think that police "anticipate" that there may be violence from members of the public. They also "expect" the public to be law abiding and to not carry knives, guns etc. Police are there to "keep the peace".

Don't get me wrong, I am grateful that we do have a police force and that there are people who have the dedication to the job, and all it entails to keep the public safe. I'm rather glad actually, that the police can be "the biggest bully" in town - when the situation demands it. Half a dozen officers, [or maybe more] plus biting dog, to arrest one man. He probably was frightened. You lot can be pretty scary! Which is a good thing against the real baduns. Thanks for being there, for that. It does not bear thinking about, if we did not have a proactive police force, keeping our streets safe.

But do the dogs REALLY have to bite people? Could they not have been trained to just hold a suspect by the arm?
 

The anononomous muppet who talks about the police being "bullies", and dogs being "weapons of violence", needs to spend a few days living on some rough council estate, and see what crap we have to put up with. Get your nose out of the Guardian and into the real world, condescending F***
 

The comment above re North Wales is true - they are trialling muzzles, and training their dogs to jump at people to knock them over, rather than bite. Ever heard of anything so daft? Mind you my thick as sh*t labrador knocks into things now and again which terrifies me into submission. A bit. But that's mainly due to the cost of what she knocks over, and then I just laugh like......well like a scrote I suppose, because she looks pathetic.
 

anon 1234 said "But do the dogs REALLY have to bite people? Could they not have been trained to just hold a suspect by the arm?"

Erm, sorry, but have you ever actually seen a dog? and did you take a couple of minutes to watch that training video from France?

The reason I ask is, I am somewhat confused by what you mean when you say "Train to hold a suspect by the arm" what with?? their hands?? Again, confused by that as dogs distinctly lack an opposable thumb enabling them to grasp or 'hold' anything?

Unless of course you mean hold them with their mouths preventing whatever it is they are holding from escaping? In which case I refer you to the video where the dogs were 'holding' the 'suspects' and were not chomping into them as though the person was a nice piece of freshly cooked turkey sitting on the kitchen side for a couple of minutes to cool down.

You can plainly see one of the dogs successfully holding onto someone when he/she (careful not to be sexist against the dog there MCM...) is hanging off the end of his handlers arm. Thereby doing exactly what it was trained to do, and funnily enough exactly what you have somewhat stupidly suggested as a different course of training from what you mistakenly believe occurs.

If you took the time to look at the photos then you'll see that the dog had indeed clamped onto the arm of the 'court disrespecting convicted drink driver who was just in a domestic and tried to escape from lawful capture' The lacerations were more than likely caused by said shitbag trying to shake the dog off, because that is exactly what the dog is trained to do, hold on and not let go until instructed by the handler.

You see, the thing about trying to play devils advocate successfully is having an iota of experience of the subject matter on which to form a foundation of argument that has some basis in fact. You clearly have no experience, no training, and no clue at all.

I would suggest the the nearest thing you have had to a struggle is not being detected whilst trying to top up the ketamine in some girls drink.

Lastly, why are you even on Police blogs at all?
 

absolutely m8, i still cant believe the tripe that he/she wrote, and eagerly await their response, when somes scroate breaks into their comfortable well appointed house.
 

Why are your police dogs trained to go for an arm?

Ours are trained to go for the testicles, or throat

Safer for the dog, and a quick end to any and all hostilities.

Stephen P
 

Anonymous (11.33) wrote:
"The photo of the man's injury is sickening."
Not a fraction as sickening as the carnage that could ensue as a result of this 'gentleman's' 'driving while drunk' escapades.
 

I have the highest regard for what our police do, with what amounts to they're hands tied behind they're backs. As a one time special constable and full time prison officer, i find it difficult to understand why anyone would feel any sympathy for any scrote. What they eventualy end up in prison for barely scratches the surface of the what they have actualy done.
I know a few i would like to feed to a pack of dogs. Although i would worry about any side effects suffered by the poor dogs.
If this country continues it's downward spiral into liberalism, it may be a good time to learn French.
 

Stephen P, anon 1234 is the reason that our dogs are trained to go for the arm. They bitch and whinge about stuff they know nothing about and will never experience but unfortunately over the years have gained the majority 'voiced' opinion. The silent majority would rather see a burglars nuts eaten by a Police dog than find out the little shit only had a minor arm injury and was out screwing someone else's house a couple of hours after the Magistrates let them go unpunished for the ten millionth time.
 

I don’t know what all the fuss is about. Just look at the photo of John GREEN, he obviously enjoyed his experience with the police dog and can’t wait to repeat it.

You can clearly see he is offering his arm in the approved manner and wearing a sleeve so he can run for the dog again. Now that’s what I call partnership working!
 

It`s called a short, sharp, shock. Quicker and cheaper than the 6 months it takes to get an ASBO. Also proves than a dumb (apologies to police dogs everywhere) animal understood what was being asked of the guy under the tree even if he didn`t quite get it himself. The old days where crims accepted that sometimes they were on the losing side are long gone. Just wait for the first test case challenging a coppers right to arrest at all.
 

anon 1234,
if you read the article, it was a domestic disturbance, every copper on here will tell you that those calls can be bloody dangerous.

If it comes down to the scrote being badly bitten or a cop being hurt - the scrote gets it every time.

You do want to get out in the real world. Come patrol with me for a day, you'll change your mind by shift end and then will be wanting me to shoot them (scrotes), not set a dog on em.
 

ANON SAID -"I think that police "anticipate" that there may be violence from members of the public. They also "expect" the public to be law abiding and to not carry knives, guns etc. Police are there to "keep the peace"."

Believe me we HAVE to anticipate violence - no one comes quietly anymore. We always have to "in the red" constantly on guard - if we drop to yellow then thats one injured or dead police officer.
I actually "expect" the public [that I deal with] to carry weapons - I always plan to anticipate their move and strike first - I like to go home safe.

We need more furry crocodiles, once bitten - never forgotten - ask this sh*tbag!!

Rural Traffic Cop
 

Re the numpty who wants the Police dogs to 'hold on' to people. Technically this could be construed as detaining them, and there ain't no dog trainer in the world gonna teach those hounds how to give the caution. Lets face it some to**er would argue it was necessary! Tried to caution with your mouth full of arm? I don't think so.
My dog howls to the six o clock news theme tune tho'.
Ah s*d it, have a bite guys, mostly, they deserve it!
Benj
 

Hey Benj I have seen your dog.He could only give a nasty suck. Not so sure about the gasses from the other end though. Police dogs are well trained polite four footed officers. They would never be able to give the caution cos they know it's wrong to speak with your mouth full.Damm fine arrest by all concerned. Dog one S..TBAG nil.

Old Duffer
 

All I gotta say, is read this:
http://www.actionbatboy.com/2007/08/02/opinion-cop-dead-after-high-speed-pursuit-questions-remain
 

Sorry for the OT -

Nice front page in the Times today - apparently soon everyone caught speeding, dropping litter, and fare dodging will be subject to having their DNA taken by police. Our DNA database is already by far the largest in the world, of course.

I think it is now fair to say (and possibly many police officers would have said so even before now) that the character of the police in the UK may now have changed for good.

It is no slur on the character of individual police officers, who would no doubt love to return to a role simply protecting the law-abiding, but the police in the UK are now becoming oppressive.

I am law-abiding myself (not so much as a speeding ticket), but I am now starting to get an inkling of what black, *law-abiding* people must have felt in Brixton in 1980s.

My only previous involvement with the police is as a prosecution witness in a criminal case (and I was delighted to have been of assistance).

Incredibly, I think the legitimate question now is whether a law-abiding member of the public could *in good conscience* cooperate with this new type of police force we have in the UK.

The present extremist Home Office has entirely changed the character of the police - it is now quite oppressive nature. Whatever happened to our traditional UK police?
 

its gone mate, and anyone caught trying to return to those traditional values is met with opposition from the upper echelons, this mey sound extreme but its true
 

I got attacked by an RAF Police guard dog in a nuclear weapons storage area in 1977 (I was on duty, the lovely Snowdrop dog handler had let his wolf run loose while he went off to the NAAFI for a beer).

I managed to put my Browning between his eyes before he bit through my groin.

I had 32 stitches. The Snowdrop was court martialed.

Never trusted a dog handler since but I'm back on friendly terms with dogs.
 

12.03pm. You have made a very valid point there and have hit the nail right on the head. The police have become very oppressive, even on this blog. A different point of view to the blinkered indoctrination appears to cause severe grumpiness to some, and produce wild accusations from others. Even a sincere compliment was not taken with grace. No, that was met with a response of "condecending f***!
 

11.13pm -

My previous post was an explicit criticism of the change of the character of the police *as a whole* that has occurred in the last few years - a change brought about by the Home Office (or whatever they are calling themselves this week). It might also be a criticism of certain senior police officers who have too enthusiastically embraced/spinelessly endorsed this change in character.

But I am pretty darned sure that many, many individual police officers are not in agreement with this change in character, and so I am also explicit in not criticizing individual (front-line) officers.

I have also found the police officers on this blog very polite/reasonable. So, your personal criticism of police officers on this blog will have to remain just that - your *personal* criticism.
 

cheers sir, im sure alot of ofiicers appreciate that,
your points are entirely valid and understandable, and i doubt that any self respecting officer would disagree. This is largely becaues you are not talking rubbish like certain other anonomous bloggers.
 

bobbyc. Yes you are so right. I was talking rubbish giving a general "thanks for being there", keeping our streets safe! Because police are NOT are they? They're all stuck in the office. Silly me.
 

your correct,im glad u were listening, and that even your "blinkered" views have changed. I also would like to remind you that both the Home Office and acpo often "thank us for being there", but that doesnt stop them talking absolute liberal tosh whilst stabbing us in the back.
 

With reference to the post by anonymous ? where he/she stated the deaf woman was asleep in bed when poilce forced entry and the dog bit her because she could not hear , i can only say rubbish. The dog, having scented the woman would speak (bark) to indicate to the handler that it has found someone. the handler then joins the dog at a distance & recalls the dog. If the lady was not actually moving or responding to calls, the handler would (should) leave the dog in the sit/stay and check the condition of the lady. these animals as some call them are the 24/7 partners of the handler and family and are trained to a very high standard and licenced by THE HOME OFFICE. So please get the facts straight because if that was the case , the dog would no longer be in service.
 

Dogman999. I read the story about the deaf woman being WOKEN UP by a police dog biting her, in the Daily Mail about 2 weeks ago. My facts ARE "straight", sadly, but that's how the cookie crumbles sometimes. An innocent woman got mauled and a severe shock.

bobbyc. I was being sarcastic and my viewpoint is not "blinkered". It is impartial and objective and based upon facts. I fully understand, and have no gripe with the fact that dogs are needed at times. It just seems a bit brutal to me, that a man who was hiding - keeping still, under a bush, received such an injury. The "crime" did not equal the "punishment".
Finally, stating the obvious, police do a difficult and often thankless job. My comment was meant sincerely, because I most certainly would NOT like a society without police to control the nasty element out there. I'm glad that ACPO and the Home Office DO thank you all for being there; Because there is nothing more soul destroying than placing oneself in danger to serve the public, and to then be unappreciated, taken for granted, taken advantage of, and/or insulted. Speaking from my own personal experience.
 

MetCountyMounty at 9.05 am, a while back and quite an uppity gobfull. You're the one that doesn't have a clue, about myself, training received, [and like a lot of officers, was then thrown in at the deep end!]and who and what "struggles" I have faced. You insulted me by your comment which suggested that I'm the type of person who would spike a girls drink. Ignorant arrogant man.
 

You read it in the Daily Mail? And you call it a straight fact?? Oh the naivety!
 

I think that competency related interviews and performance development reviews should be introduced for police 'land sharks'...sorry dogs.
Think about the possibilities...respect for race and diversity! planning and organising! resilience! The dog is the ultimate profesional, free from prejudice or moral considerations treating everyone as equal...equal prey that is!
 

Likewise the Police being the "biggest bullies in town" comment. Well, if it's not them, who would you rather was the muscle in your neighbourhood?

Hows about 'muscle' that don't arrest old ladies for poking yobs in the stomach, who then proceed to break the lady's arm? Not forgetting the the other cases where they've arrested people using any kind of force against obvious scum.

Or 'muscle' who don't arrest lasses dressed in cowboy costumes on a night out, for carrying obvious toy guns, painted pink, with the red stopper on the end and everything, arresting them just because they were called out?

Or for that matter, 'muscle' who don't bellyache about 'anti-police' attitudes when this sort of thing is mentioned to them, and don't shy away from discussion of the conduct of individual poilcefolk and the impact this has en-masse on the public's regard of them.

The refusal of the police to address this shows just how much they really want the approval and co-operation of the public, does it not?
 

How can people honestly say that setting the dog on this individual was wrong? The officers had been called out to a domestic *violence* incident to apprehend a wanted criminal. It was entirely legitimate of them to use the dog on him, better that a criminal, who has already demonstrated a propensity towards violence, gets a bite to the arm than an officer being knifed by the scumbag.

Furry Friends 1 - Drink Driving Scumbags 0

Hopefully the doggy got a nice treat.
 

I hope the poor dog has had its jabs. I would hate to see such an intelligent animal getting hurt as a result of that scum bag oxygen thief.