The Policeman's Blog

Some of the louts on our local housing estates, who have had the benefits of three or four generations of liberale ducation, as well as millions spent on numerous anti wife beating campaigns, could learn a lot from him.
Really DC this is the sort of soundbite journalism we expect from the gutter press.
 

Fairs fair! I mean, like, the old sheek there, does, like, lay dahn some ground rules, no wot I mean, snot mindless, and it could all be, like, avoided, if the missus has the dinnah onna table wen I get in from dahn the rub-a-dub. Simple innit!
 

(OFF TOPIC) But it is good to hear that Tony (I'm a numpty) McNulty is in the smmelly stuff over the latest Home Office cock up!
Schadenfreude is a marvellous thing.
 

The solution to our domestic violence problem is not beating as the cleric said but education and his archaic approach real does disappoint me. I thought the mordern police had got past the 'enforcement' stage.
No the solution is education and the re-enstatement of home economics.
If the young ladies of today are taught how to clean the house, how to make sure there is a hot meal on the table and other womanly chores then the police might be able to get on with arresting the murderers, robbers and rapists that have slipped through the home office net.
 

DC, What's going on with the previous open road topic. The add comments link at bottom of the page is gone? I'm sure people still have thing to add.
 

What's most disturbing about this is what is not said.

The sheik is clearly a moderate, and is trying to convince the audience that they CAN carry on beating their wives; as long as they do not break the skin, bones, or cause bleeding.

A considerate wife-beater is what passes for moderation in the Arab world.
 

Anonymous: 12:36 a.m.

No. You are wrong.
The difference between this and the council estate yobbos, is that the yobbos know they are wrong. The fact that they choose to break the law -- and the moral code of the entire country and western world -- is exactly the kind of point that PC Copperfield is always banging on about. The scumbags make a moral choice. They choose the wrong path. That is what makes them criminals.

This sheik is trying to make his viewers aware that their women even have rights.
He probably considers himself very enlightened.

Big difference.
 

These are not my views but my perception of what this man is saying:

1 Man is superior.
2 A man has the right to beat a woman/partner.
3 Don't beat around the face.
4 Don't bruise or cause bleeding.

Is this moderate and acceptable?
 

dave, where do you get these bleeding heart liberals from? what's he on about, 'the woman is not the man's property'? come again, chief?

roll on the days of sharia law in the uk! with guys like this in charge, we'll all have a ball.
 

Just a couple things I noticed about this.

He cannot hit her in front of the kids. (well thats ok as long as they're deaf and cannot see the mothers pain/upset afterwards.)

If he does happen to give her a shiner, or make her bleed he's got Allah to answer to! (I hope judgement day comes along regular.)

Obviously the thought of prosecution for an offence does not worry them in the slightest (if they even have domestic assault as an offence in Bahrain)

Although it does give thought to trying to understand the thought processes of offenders of domestic violence in this country.
Most I would say, do it away from the kids and the thought of prosecution doesn't bother them in the slightest, its merely an embarassment to the pickle they've found themselves in.

I would believe that over in Bahrain the beating of vife is to keep her in check and punish her when she has committed crimes against Housekeeping and Childcare.

Over here, some do it just for the hell of it.
 

If you compare what he said to the CPS charging standards for assault and the domestic violence risk assessments used by many forces following his advice will result in at most a moderate risk and a charge of common assault, does he do advice for drug dealers something along the lines of never carry more than 10 wraps of each, don't carry more than £500 it could get seized.
 

I thought he sounded quite reasonable until he said a man doesn't own his wife. Come on, which age are you living in?
 

OFF TOPIC

I am a new reader of this blog, and have almost finished DC's book. I have enjoyed reading both very much. It's nice to find that there are others who have the same attitude towards the issued raised by DC as me.

Over the last few days I have been watching the new(?) series of 'Bad Lad's Army' on ITV4. I am sure that a lot of the young people mentioned by DC are the sort that turn up on this show. Does anyone else agree that the change that these kids go through on BLA is fantastic? I am increasingly coming to the opinion that sending young offenders (or maybe all young people) off to something like BLA would be of great benefit, and would have a good chance of showing young people the error of their ways. Unfortunatly I would have thought that it would violate the Human Rights Act however.

I realise this is off topic, however without a forum (that I know of) there is now where else for me to comment.
 

From the criteria Abdullah gives, it sounds like the only chastisement acceptable to Allah is a nice spanking.

Hmm.

I think I'll pack the kids off to bed a bit earlier tonight.
 

Wife beating is not only necessary but actually theraputic.
 

He could market this stategy to the underclass. maybe with a "Chav Wife-Beater" pack.
Contains a handful of "Sovs" for each finger for the backhanders, and a four pack of Stella with one of those little fridges thrown in. Then a plastic (re - usable)bunch of garage-forcourt-flowers and pack of fags, so he can give her a "sorry love, you made me mad" prezzie! Awwwwwww...... hey! I think I'm on to something here..... be right back....
 

just seen you on bbc midlands today in my neck of the woods dave - they said you'll be on again tonight. do you actually do any policing these days?!!

only joking, good on you, keep it up!
 

Revised police policy on police emails

Please circulate this memo to all officers and police staff within this said Force, er now. What are you waiting for?

Revised policy on official emails
Emails sent by police employees using police computers will hence forth become the property, of the Force, or precisely, myself, the Chief Constable. This revised amendment is amended to protect the human rights of myself, the Chief Constable, and my peers . ( The oppressed might be liable under The new ammenedment to the Theft Act 1968 incorporated in the TWINING ACT 2007. )

Emails highlighting poor working practices will not be circulated to DC, Insp G, PC Bloggs, or any other blog writers, or any tabliod newspaper or police review. No, no no.

Any person found to be in contravention of the revised policy will be dealt with via the new misconduct/misfortune/theft codes, (that I have written just and which I will circulate laters).

This revised policy here-with the consent of ACPO now applies to all 43 Forces. All chief constables will have the same jurisdiction as myself.

Dated: 11/01/07
Chief Constable Twining,
Shireshire.
 

Once he's been on a diversity course, we can then employ him!!!
PC Common Sense
 

re bbc midlands today go here and follow the link on the right hand side:

http://search.bbc.co.uk/
cgi-bin/search/results.pl
?q=copperfield&go.x=0&go.
y=0&go=go&uri=%2
Fhome%2Fd%2Findex.live.shtml
 

Mmmm. I'm glad he's cleared a few points up for me there.
No doubt all the regulars living in scumbag street have already veiwed this on Youtube and carrying these 'instructions' out on their 'partners'.
 

Hmmm...that BBC Midlands link doesn't appear to work. But a little digging, and here's one that does:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/midlandstoday/latest_features/index.shtml


By the way, nice Dudley accent, DC, if I'm not mistaken! I know that this is the voice of an 'actor', but you might have specified something better :)
(Sorry, Dudley-ites, couldn't resist !)

BTW- we are coming to the end of the week, so DC I hope you are considering which 'pseudo-policeman' (as opposed to real beat bobbies who actually arrest criminals) should be put into the stocks next week :)
Ahhh...wasn't it fun lambasting Mick's idiotic email!
A little light mockery and derision from other police officers and police-supporting taxpayers never hurt anyone...
 

It' great when these "minority groups" can't be civil and decent to each other...
This bloke would be snapped up by most Police Forces to fulfil their Home Office dictated ethnic recruitment targets...
When he came out with his beliefs on dv the force would be in a difficult position...do we go against his religious beliefs because they are sexist - and risk being accused of racism...
My current favorite "minority" fallout is between the muslim and christian and indeed Jewish religious groups and the Gays who they believe are evil.
Someone even submitted a "hate incident" at our training school because someone pushed a "devout Christian - persecute the gays" leaflet in the middle of a pile of LAGSA leaflets.....
I sometimes think the white heterosexual is the most tolerant of us all....
Ricky G
 

i think the 10 point update on the computer will have to be revised
1)-3)usual details name etc
4)was it in front of the children?
5)did the victim bleed?
6)were there any bruises
7)were any bones broken
8)has the single great deity been informed
too tired to think of any thing else apart from..
domestics maybe we should now treat the incident in a manner according to the religious and cultural needs of the individuals as to the imposed ideals of a judeao- christian western democracy!!!!!!
 

I think the SMT's response at Newtown will follow a familiar pattern.
Someone will have drawn the short straw and be wheeled out to explain that his comments will have been taken 'out of context'

Public/media furore will continue.

SMT will withdraw and spokespersons will brief the assembled press/public.

Someone, somewhere, down the food chain will be identified as not checking his CV properly.

He will,eventually,be sacked.

He will take his case to an industrial tribunal and eventually recieve a large amount of money......for something.
 

OFF TOPIC

Sorry, but I can't post a new thread.

Here is someone who has demonstrated the true values of the Police, and public service. Putting other people before himself without thinking of the consequences. Andrew Kelly, we salute you.

http://archive.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/
2005/4/6/89718.html
 

It is another world in the middle east. I stayed in Beirut a couple of years back. The English speaking newspaper had a story about a politician who wanted to introduce the death penalty for robbery and homosexual acts. What would the touchy feely, cappuccino sipping, liberal elite make of that one?
 

DC there is an old rule as long as the stick you use is not bigger than the width of your thumb you are able to beat the trouble & strife with it - take it thats not still legal then??

Any chance of a link on your site am in need of help from fellow bloggers.
 

He only hits her (and doesn't break the skin or any bones)because he loves her, not because he see's her as a lower class of person, can't any of you see that? The wife should be grateful that she is being taught the error of her ways by a smack. These Sheiks truly have a lot to teach us in the west!
You won't hear a peep from the Guardian readers about this! ;)
 

Can I just say if I may, someone talked about the fall out between Islam and the Jewish peoples, and that sometimes it is funny; this fall out between minorities. On the contrary, it is actually quite sick that this is considered funny. There was a horrendous war between Israel and Lebanon. Is it so funny that innocent lives were lost? Lawrence's killers murdered the Black teenager becausee he was different. Is it so funny that differences cause this? I don't think so. There are countless other reverse attacks on White people also. Is this funny? This "funniness" is a part of the tokenistic approach some of us don't like.
 

i can't speak for the poster who said it was 'funny' but i THINK he/she meant it was funny because of the way it ties up the PC brigade in knots.
i doubt anyone actually thinks muslims attacking gays is funny, or black youths attacking pakistanis, or whites attacking jews... the humour is in watching the guardianistas hop from foot to foot as they watch a 'persecuted minority group' persecute others.
 

Ok, that clears it. Thanks. I see, we are talking about the Liberals who don't know what to do and that don't know what to do bit is funny. Sorry, I am having a bad day. I can't find the other post though.
 

Wow, enlightening stuff.....

surely he qualifies for a visit to the UK at taxpayers expense at the express invite of our esteemed mayor of london. He's certainly met the criteria of being offensive enough to speak at a rally in trafalgar square, whilst ken and his 'liberal' left wing buddies fawn over his archaic anti caring sharing views.
 

The best way is to wet a towel, roll it length ways, then double it over. Hurts like hell, causes pains and aches lasting for days and leaves no marks.

Just don't let the kids see it.
 

i am a custdy sgt in hampshire and would be interested in views on the following. Husband hits wife common assault injuries police turn up husband arrested wife refuses to make a statement. Offence denied in interview husband nt pnc, cps advice says NFA, case then refered to duty inspector who states policy from above is to keep in custody till next court and charge breach of peace. Would be good to hear others views ths is the current policy from above in hampshire on every dv case where cps say NFA
 

I was mis-interpreted. Indeed the funniness comes from watching Guardian reading do-gooders squirm when one minorities views disagree so much with anothers!!
Do I be agree and fight for Muslim rights - knowing they hate Gays - or do I support the Gays and risk upsetting Muslims and religious Jews.
Me - really I hate the PC brigade - I just treat everyone as an individual and with respect unless it isnt shown back
 

Anon @2.50pm

We, as yet, don't charge with the BotP, but have discussed that that might, just might,) make the wife/girlfriend beater think twice.

...and before someone adds a note, yes, i know not all DV incidents are female victims, but most are.

I'd be intersted in whether, following the decisions to charge, has the number of Domestic Incidents/ repeat offenders dropped?

I personally don't mind helping a victim of domestic violence when it's a 'real' job, but have become cynical over the years due to drunken partners arguing and ringing the police to sort out their social arrangements. Another case of WPT
 

The YouTube Video is a spoof.

I have contacted Language Line and established the true translation of the speech within the video DC has published. Obviously the useage of Language Line cost the Police (therefore the tax payer) about £400 for a 10 minute call but ho hum.

Here's the link to the REAL video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJL9-0wBP1o

Anyway... Erm...
 

I think the issue here is that this cleric is unaware of the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005. Has no one told him that now Common Assault is arrestable, this defence WILL NOT KEEP HIS FOLLOWERS OUT OF JAIL!
 

Shouldn't we be embracing his diversity?
 

is this before or after the skinfull of wifebeater, numbers or camel 69?

I think we should be told ;-p
 

They get away with it because they can always play the Religion Card i.e. Wifey offended some hokey diktat attributed (not necessarily accurately) to The Prophet, so giving her a good hiding was just The Will Of Allah and nothing to do with impatience, bad temper or a nasty character. Obviously dobbing The Lord and Master in would earn Wifey a double dose of eternal damnation.
 

To Hants custody sgt. In the old days we used 1361 BOP for any sort of threat or disorder. It was a good way of getting people off the street. Of course there is no bail so it often meant that the prisoner was in for the weekend. For that reason there is quite a bit of case law on the subject. The 'Gapper' case is but one. A Judge pretty much spelled out the definition of a BOP. It included fighting and violence or damage to ones property in their presence. There is a confusion as to Police powers as well. If I remember it correctly and I am not sure I do, there was a Police power of entry to prevent a BOP. Any person, may arrest to prevent a BOP and the Police may also arrest to prevent the immediate re occurrence of a BOP. If the assault has already happened and there is no threat of an immediate re-occurrence, there is no power of arrest for BOP at any rate. The other confusion is that the person that threatens the BOP is the one that should get arrested. For instance if a group of football fans wave their scarves at rival supporters and the rivals react threatening violence etc. it is not the scarf wavers but the rivals who should be arrested for BOP. (although the scarf wavers would be guilty of Sec 5 or 4a POA 1986)
What would be worrying me about this is that without any sort of statement there is no evidence of what really happened. A domestic dispute has the tendency to bring out the very worst qualities in a person and people make rash allegations on the spur of the moment.
 

Domestic issue: Think police should be as imaginative as they legally can in each set of circumstances to use any legislation with support or not, to discourage reoffending. You might stop a murder; over time you will stop a murder.
Which leads me to the subject of cynicism: It doesn't matter how long you have in, how many times you have dealt with certain types of jobs each must be dealt with on its merits. Cynicism prevents an objective assessment and puts the blinkers on and is ultimately destructive to everybody including the cynic. Use experience by all means to help you deal with people, but don't always assume that you know what will happen, because you are dealing real people. How many domestics have you gone to and thought he will murder her one day, but never does, but also the domestics you have been to where you think you know it will be the normal retraction of charges but where there has been a murder some while later(thankfully when you were off duty). We can never know what they are going to do and if the police deal with things as positively as they are allowed then they have done what is asked of them. If cynicism seeps into your soul it will cloud your judgement, and eat you up. Don't let it win, do your bit as well as you can go home and sleep well, but use all your experience to keep yourself and colleagues safe. Don't let the bosses, the cps, govt counting, ruin you doing yur job. They as much as the people who cannot lead their lives without regular agency intervention are areality of that job. If you can't take that part of it go work in a shop.
Well if you disagree, bring it on.

Sweaty old Geezer.
 

it isnt funny being on the receiving end of domestic violence you know you stupid gits. i bet dave wont allow this to be posted but i will feel better saying it. imagine earning a good salary cos you are intelligent and motivated .imagine marrying someone you have fallen in love with.imagine having babies and wanting to bring them up as they are the worlds future so you no longer work. imagine that the change in finances which fund the familys treats are no more cos of you and the kids .imagine that the family status cars x 2 are no longer affordable cos of you and those kids.imagine being to blame for everything that is not acceptable in your husbands life. imagine being told repeatedly that you are crap at everything you do .imagine that you only have child benefit in your name when you used to earn 30,000.imagine having no family to run to.
AT LEAST THE SCUMBAGS ON ESTATES CAN RING YOU LOT AND GET HELP AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME.

imagine being married to a policeman, who do you ring then.

domestic violence isnt funny you stupid gits!

guess what? anonymous
 

Imagine leaving him, if it's that bad!
 

to the last anon: domestic violence isn't funny. no-one on here is suggesting it is. they ARE suggesting that this sheikh and his odd views are funny, and that the response they will engender in guardian readers, as they try to weigh the competing interests of muslims and women (i mean, who wins in a toss-up between a turkish lesbian domestic violence victim and her disabled black muslim partner?) is funny.

they're also slightly jadeed by some of the DV cals they get... the same totally pissed woman ringing the police every other day complaining that her equally pissed partner has assaulted her for the 30th time. as sweaty old geezer points out, cynicism is a killer in these circumstances, but it's also human nature; women like this need help, for sure, but not from the police. (my advice to any woman attacked by her husband - and vice versa, it' happening more and more) is find a way of leaving.)

as for your own situation, if you're saying your husband has assaulted you and he's a policeman and the local force won't do anything about it, you either haven't rung them or you're lying. they'd be down on him like a ton of bricks, and quite rightly.
 

To Anonymous at 1.17am
""it isnt funny being on the receiving end of domestic violence you know you stupid gits""
This is hardly the way to start an intelligent conversation or discussion.
Neither is ""domestic violence isnt funny you stupid gits"".
We know it isnt funny....
But if you are going to resort to abuse then is it any wonder people don't listen!

The thing cops find "funny" perhaps more ironic - is that after attending numerous diversity and sexism racism homophobic courses and after being made to feel guilty for being "institutionally racist, sexist and homophobic" after being almost forced to walk about apologising to every black person, gay or woman for being every -ist under the sun....
we now see the Guardian reading do-gooder diversity lecturers with a problem - how to reconcile huge differences between minority groups..
That is the humour - call it black humour (if you dare) but it is humour all the same.
As for Domestic Violence - yes it is serious - but so are thieves ons, youths breaking into cars, every drunk driver, every speeding driver, every neighbourhood dispute ALL of which are potential murders waiting to happen.
If you are truely a coppers wife then rest assured - if you report the matter (their are numerous confidential free phone lines) the matter will be treated by dedicated staff in dedicated units ( DV Units, Professional Standards etc) ... If fact - the Force will go all out to prosecute him if he has done wrong....
Just don't refer to them as "stupid gits"
Ricky G
 

Anon 0853 and Ricky G,

I agree with the advise you have given if she is being beaten she should ring the local police whether her partner is job or not. There is so much in place now than when I first started and yeah calling them 'stupid gits' isnt a good idea.
If this was reported in my force area you would have the duty inspector with you as soon as you put the phone down and the helicopter and 007 would be on standby. I lied about the last bit the helicopter would be out of flight hours or broke!!

Off topic just started to read DCs book - one word - superb.
 

Before anyone comments to my last comment yes its ADVICE not ADVISE in this context - Im tired not a halfwit - unless you really know me.
 

It really does astound me when people add comments on here when it is clear they haven't a clue what the debate is about. Or they didn't watch the video...

No-one has suggested DV is funny, and yet we are called stupid gits..?

Have i missed something?

Cynicism is something which is unavoidable in our line of work; as some other poster has already said, it's not the one-off complainant who develops this, but the repeated 'victim' who's either too drunk, too ignorant/stupid, or too much 'in love' to figure out that the relationship with their beating partner possibly isn't in their best interest, or that of their many children.

I attend all DV incidents with a positive attitude and treat all incidents as one-off's, but get very tired of visiting the same address over and over again, giving the same advice, writing up the same information on the log, asking our DV unit to contact.

I've also regularly followed up on those calls and asked the dvu what has happened, and, after 4 years, am only aware of one (1) case (from repeat DV victims) who left husband and didn't go back. All the others, who have received support to break the cycle of events (yes, i've had all the training one officer can possibly take), have returned to their original partners or, in another well known case in my area, settled in with another known wife beater!

The Police i'm sure, have prevented several domestic murders by turning up at every DV incident reported and removing one partner from the area - what really annoys the officers though is the pure regularity of it, to where it becomes a futile and 'point-scoring' service. We are an easy phone call from drunken arguments, where no complaint will be writen down, no charges or court case will be brought, yet cells are filled every night with alleged offenders, before recieving a call the following morning from 'victim' asking when lover is getting out as the kids need taking to school.

Police required to repeatedly sort out domestic living arrangements is not a good use of our very limited resources.

I'm not saying i have an answer, unfortunately. All the 'victims' i see are fully aware of the support offered by the police, of shelters, civil actions to distance themselves from alleged offenders, etc, but few take the opportunity to use these as they all hope it'll 'get better'. How many times have i heard "He's only like this when he's had a drink"? Oh, well, that's ok then... He's planning to go T-total then, is he? unlikely.

Difficult subject. No immediate solution.
 

these last three posts on this blog havn't half stirred things up, thing is that this is called freedom of speech for which people died on beaches ,remember that when you rant at another comment. lets get one thing straight you are allowed to make any commnent you want in the privacy of your own home. Nobody owns the internet, not even Bill Gates, nor can it be switched off ! this blog thing is here to stay and represents what the internet should be about , that and consenting adult porn of course, eh..sorry slight aberation there
also my name just happend to be anon
 

to Anon at 1.10pm...

are you reading the same blog as me? Stirred things up how?

i'm yet to read a good argument from anything you've posted. Wish to actually express a view rather than just generalising?
 

Ironic thing is that actually, what that chap said sounds almost the same as what the cps says. Had a wifebeater in the other day due to him locking her in the house, subjecting her to sleep deprivation and grabbing her by the clothes and shaking her about while threatening to kill her.

However, as he didn't cause bleeding, bruising or break anything, RIE.
 

At least he won't have to worry about a police response. I phoned 3x9s to Northants police re. criminal damage in progress and 40 minutes later, still no one had attended. Isn't there SOMETHING we can do to get manpower on shift? It is mutinous.
 

There is no easy answer to DV. The Police can gather evidence and present a case to the CPS. If there is not enough evidence there is no case. The End.
The Police can deal with the symptoms but not the cause. Someone should be asking why people want to stay with a violent partner. The Police get called to the same addresses by the same couples again and again.
DV is a social cultural problem as is binge drinking, USI, drug taking and football violence.
Most of the Dom incidents are drink or drug fuelled and trying to make any sense of what happened is often very difficult.
Over the last few years the Police have been 'told' to deal with DV robustly. I am not aware of any particular case or set of circumstances that prompted this approach.
The worst result of DV is a death, but that is also the worst result of binge drinking, drug taking and football violence and dangerous driving.
Has the Govt installed a DV czar yet? (and what happened to the drug czar?)
 

to 1218
cant get pop ups as i dont no how to delete the trail completely whereas cookies works for websites+ one more thing so yes you are right i havent seen that video however i do not think dv is something to make a comical video out of .to 853 i have been married xx yrs so can you imagine the possible rank of my other half.look at 632 and see that i should be able to clean cook and do womanly chores and following replies that i deserve a beating if i dont comply(just dont leave a bruise).and to 535 how do you decide what is a real job and yes i do know that you are called to lots that i would not consider a real job but how do you decide have you a crystal ball or do you toss a coin like my husband did.To 1150 and friends and 1218 ok you are not stupid gits but you are powerless to help some of the people who need you and i am possibly a small minority and i can see why this happens as i read all the paperwork in my house and i perhaps do not help myself but i do not lie (to 853). to ricky g do you undersand the meaning of truly and do you have children. no , go back to your weather control and sandbags.And to all you stupid gits out there (including 359 )
i am sorry if i offend you but if the cap fits you should wear it .
guess what anonymous
 

Wot about husband Beating - More common than you think ?
 

to anon 2.31, the DV victim:
your husband's rank has nothing to do with anything, but i'd suggest this, if his force really won't help - get a taspe recorder, record him at it and then supply the tape to the media along with evidence of your approaches to the police.

as for the rest of your post, don't have a pop about a video you've not seen, eh? here's a brief synopsis: it's a muslim cleric saying it's OK to beat your wife as long as you don't break her bones or hit her face.
100% of the posters on here are laughing at him and his mad views, and the knots in which this sort of thing ties up liberals, and NOT at DV.
 

Interesting. He enumerates principles more humane than those used in Guantanamo Bay.

Think about it.
 

i've thought about it, stu, and i'm wondering... what's your point?
dennis nielsen, say, killed fewer people than adolf hitler, say, but i wouldn't want him cooking my breakfast.
 

""to ricky g do you undersand the meaning of truly and do you have children. no , go back to your weather control and sandbags""
Hey.. you what???
I have a child yes - understand the meaning of "truly" but you've lost me on the sandbags.
Northern copper has informed you of a practical way of sorting out your issues - why not do something rather than snipe at people here with trite phrases like "if the cap fits" etc. If you're big enough to have an anonymous pop at us - why don't you do something positive for yourself and sort your situation out. DV is a serious issue and the Police will help - but ultimately YOU have to do soemthing.
 

To alleged DV victim.
If you go around picking "fights" anonomously over the web with people you don't even know - refer to them as "stupid gits" etc , I am not surprised you have "issues" with your husband.
Your manner of writing and comments to people on this forum make me feel sorry for the bloke!
 

Hi DC.

Looks like even the Special Constabulary hates you:

http://www.policespecials.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=47862&st=0
 

My husband has just knocked my cactus over and snapped it in half. Although he is sorry, I am going to teach him the error of his ways with a rolled-up wet towel. Any objections?
 

Lily, clearly you haven't been listening to the rules as described by the 'enlightened' 'sheik' - beatings only apply to wives!
Seriously, while the certain people have managed to portray domestic violence as a purely husband on wife thing, the reality is very different:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/5092100.stm

Obviously, neither form of spousal abuse is acceptable at all.
 

To the Hampshire Custody Officer. Any Custody officer who disregards the advice of the CPS and charges a prisoner with an offence where the CPS have decided there should be NFA or, charges with a differnt offence from that which the CPS have decided, commits the offence of MALFEASANCE IN PUBLIC OFFICE. If you, the OIC or Duty Officer feels the CPS decision is wrong, then you should appeal it immediately through the correct process. Given the choice of breaking the law or a force policy I know which one I'd plump for everytime. 3 Stripes & Rarely Out.
 

Someone mentioned about asking these woman why they are still with their abusive husbands. We aren't allowed to do this in my force as it makes the women feel "bad".

I thought it was common sense? Aren't we supposed to be convincing these women that what has happened to them is wrong or are we just there to continue to complete the paperwork and call her in the morning to say its NFA?

I was actually quite suprised at how liberal that video was. Thought no holds barred domestic abuse was a given in those places.

Anyway - i've got to peel the potatoes for my blokes tea else i'm in trouble. Catch you later.
 

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"Hi DC.

Looks like even the Special Constabulary hates you:

http://www.policespecials.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=47862&st=0"

Yes, tar all specials by the comments of a few who are on their soapbox.

Oh look, the secret policeman - all police are racist tossers
*point made*
 

extraspecial

“I say sack him if they can identify him. If hes got any issues he should deal with them properly or speak to the Federation, not make a mockery of the force”

This is what some brainbox wrote on the specials blog. I doubt if he realises the irony of his comment. Writing down his own opinion on a blog / forum, criticising someone else for doing the same.

I fear he is a great candidate for leadership.

I am not targeting all specials, just the one who wrote this. Oh & as far as the “secret policeman”. They weren’t bobby’s just civilians given a free suit. You should know that.
 

grannys myth peeler -

that particular member on ps.com is one that is always making "holier than thou" comments and is usually ignored by most members as he is always causing problems like this - and he is a moderator too, shame he lets the other ones down.

as for the secret policeman comment, how foolish of me to forget that key fact lol
 

ESC - i've just had a look at policespecials and, as you say, most people on there seem to be good sorts with heads on straight. whopper mctit is obviously a sad case.
like your blog, by the way, keep up the good work
 

A moderator eh!

A short sighted person with no understanding of people’s right to voice their own opinions. Yet with the power to control them. It’s not a diversity course that is required but a term in the "school of hard knocks". It would appear that THIS person is one of the true enemies of our land that we are regularly discussing on this site.

“Monsters in disguise, wearing bowler hats & old school ties”
Hazel O’Connor
 

He's clearly a fool who has no concept of what is going on, or the very real need to tell the public why we are letting them down. He is also totally unqualified to comment as he performs a different Policing role that is largely protected from the issues raised in DC's book.

I would suggest that someone so vehemently opposed to another person having the right to express their views is too intolerant to be let out on the street in the UK with a warrant card. Specially when the views objected to serve the public interest.

SC whoever you are-Get some experience and wind your neck in.
 

To Doodles
To clarify what I said, I could think of couples who do nothing but fight argue steal and damage each others property, then call the police to sort their lives out. The tax paying public would be horrified to learn what a drain on Police resources these people are.
The Police arrest one of them give bail condits for him/her to stay away and what do you know, they are back together in two days and within a week they are fighting arguing and calling the Police again
 

Isn't he just recommending a bit of light S&M? That sort of thing can do wonders for a failing marriage.
 

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A bunch of mainly anonymous people (hopefully not all policemen) make silly jokes about wife-beating. A woman calls them 'Stupid gits'. Immediately they get all aggressive and unpleasant towards her, and make out her violent husband to be the real victim. You don't like being called 'stupid gits'? Aaaw diddums. No wonder she won't go to the police about it if you are all so pathetically aggressive about being called a git. You come across as being as stupid and aggressive a bunch of thick chavs as the underclass you are continually whining about. You clearly deserve them as much as they deserve you. No wonder the police have lost all respect from the decent law-abiding public, not just the chavs or the Guardian readers. Most of us never bother to report crime any more because you are useless at dealing with it. Grow up and stop acting like the criminal class you mistakenly think you are better than.
 

The way you meekly crawled towards the Islamic thugs with their clearly illegal placards and then threatened with arrest the brave citizens who tackled them has had a far greater impact on the public than you realise. Not to mention the time when you didn't have the guts to storm a house, allowing a woman to die of her injuries. The attitudes expressed on this blog show that you don't give a stuff about the victims anyway. They are all asking for it aren't they? Only the army is capable of bringing law and order to the streets of Britain these days. And no squaddie worth his salt would fuss over being called a git. They would just laugh.
 

re the above, i think you would find Mr soldier that the police DO actually care about the victims, more so the REAL victims not the idiots who waste our time by creating problems of their own and expect us to sort them out within a ten minute visit!
the problem is the whole system within which we work allows us to protect the guilty more than they deserve and the victims (can i say that) far less than they deserve and for what??? bloody red tape, detection rates and bull s***t!
When i joined not so long ago we had 13 on our shift a substantive Sgt and an inspector (just the shift) and now only 7 years later we have 4 (if we are lucky) an acting sgt and 1 inspector for the county.....! it's the way forward so we are told! CARE!!??? We don't have time to scratch our backsides let alone flippin care! if only!
 

To anon 4.44
You have missed the point. Most of these blogs and most other police blogs are complaints about the fact that the Police cannot do the job they want to do because of lack of manpower/resources, Political Correctness, and the constraints of the Health and Safety Act, the Human Rights Act and the insidious bean counting and target reaching.
You are complaining about the same thing it appears.
The Police like the Army are (still) a disciplined body. The Police follow orders from senior officers who are in turn ordered what to do by the Govt.
The Police on the street have no choice but to do what they are told, even if they do not like it. The only other choice is to resign or be sacked.
Do not blame the Police on the street for the mess that the system has created.
You do not sound like a soldier,but you say the Army could bring law and order to the streets. Yes they could, but not if they had to work under the same constraints as the Police.
If they did we could expect to see activity analysis forms and racial incident forms being filled out in Afghanistan and Basra
 

One thing cops do do is examine evidence.

Lets just cast an impartial eye over parts of the world where various armies are currently engaged specifically to bring law and order.......